completely botched and cruelly lied about what the president did in response to -- you know the tragedies in benghazi and unrest in cairo. on the other hand i think they really are -- they know their only chance right now, i think, is not so much hyping economic trouble, but hyping fear of the president. >> john: uh-huh. >> and the belief that he is a muslim and he sympathizes with our attackers and all of that crap. i think that's where they are going. >> john: i think you are right, joan. i think there are some republicans and social conservatives and moderates that mitt really lost this week that no debate performance will win back. were you surprised to see the ineptness of him blaming the president -- >> in an embassy that was about to come under siege. one staffer who was probably afraid that what did happen was going to happen, was trying to -- you know say something conciliatory -- >> john: yes, i think it was actually a smart move. >> yeah. saying we're not part of that -- >> john: it was unauthorized. >> it was unauthorized. i just think campaigns make mistakes, and it was possible for mitt